The Orphan Speaks

[Esther Coleman]

I still haven't read the other jurors' questions and statements because I don't want my questions to be affected by them. I will read them afterwards, but if I ask something that someone else already did, please answer anyway, okay? I want to read what you have to say to me.

BOBBY
You apparently played a great social game within the Heroes despite your alliance with Annie as you were never voted out or targetted, from what I know. But I haven't seen much of you in the merge. Of course you were pretty good in challenges, but other than that, I don't know what you did for yourself, you know? So my question to you is: how were you planning on defending your case with Annie on the F3? Becsause you played mostly the same game but I saw more of her. Or were you planning on backstabbing her? Please clarify.

CLEAR
I have absolutely no hard feelings about your betrayal of my alliance, which caused me, Check and Jigsaw to be Pagonged. I should have talked to you earlier, but I trusted my immediate alliance, and it was my mistake. My only problem with this situation is how it makes impossible for you to win, you know? Loyalty is great and admirable, but were you really planning on going to F3 with any on Bobby, Annie and Tom, knowing they were all amazing in challenges and liked by everyone, while you flew under the radar at times? Please explain to me your plan to win this game with Bobby, Annie and/or Tom in the F3. Why do you think your game is better? Why do you think they don't deserve my vote over you?

TOM
I must say I'm incredibly proud of how you played this game. From someone with no alliances and that got caught in other's plans, you took matters in your own hands and controlled your alliances, always open for a new way that could benefit you. Additionally, you were simply our best challenge competitor, and to top it off, you never excluded anyone and you were always honest about your feelings in the game. You didn't deceive me when I asked you to not lie to me, and I don't forget that.
Coming into this Final Tribal Council, I was completely sure I'd give you my vote, and even though I didn't read even half of your enormous opening speech, I must say you still have the bigger chances here. But I still have one question to ask. Do you really think the other contestants in the F3 are undeserving? I may think you played the best game, but nobody was inactive around here and everyone played the way they could. So, I want to know what you think of the others. I want you to tell me how would you vote if you were eliminated. Who in this Final 12 deserved to win the most, if you couldn't win yourself?



That's all I have to ask for now. Despite my initial leanings to vote Tom, my vote is right now undecided so please try your best to answer my questions. I wish you all good luck.

[Tom Hanniger]

TOM
I must say I'm incredibly proud of how you played this game. From someone with no alliances and that got caught in other's plans, you took matters in your own hands and controlled your alliances, always open for a new way that could benefit you. Additionally, you were simply our best challenge competitor, and to top it off, you never excluded anyone and you were always honest about your feelings in the game. You didn't deceive me when I asked you to not lie to me, and I don't forget that.
Coming into this Final Tribal Council, I was completely sure I'd give you my vote, and even though I didn't read even half of your enormous opening speech, I must say you still have the bigger chances here. But I still have one question to ask. Do you really think the other contestants in the F3 are undeserving? I may think you played the best game, but nobody was inactive around here and everyone played the way they could. So, I want to know what you think of the others. I want you to tell me how would you vote if you were eliminated. Who in this Final 12 deserved to win the most, if you couldn't win yourself?

Wow, thanks Esther, and great questions.

First question:

Do you really think the other contestants in the F3 are undeserving?

You know, I had to reevaluate what I may have said in this scenario, and I have a different opinion on each.

Now, on Clear, I love her as a person, I really do, but i'm sorry, I don't think she would deserve to win this game over the others in the finals. I feel that the people she planned to have with her in the finals just made bigger moves as you said and I don't see how she planned on winning by taking them to the finals with her. With Clear, I just don't think she personally made enough big moves to win this game.

Now, with Bobby, it's not that I think he's undeserving, it's more so that I think he doesn't deserve to win when compared to my game. It's not a matter of me thinking he doesn't deserve the win, but based on who he is against in the finals, I don't think he should win, no.

So, I want to know what you think of the others. I want you to tell me how would you vote if you were eliminated. Who in this Final 12 deserved to win the most, if you couldn't win yourself?

Wow, this if a very difficult question to answer for a couple of reasons, and i've been asked this before, and I have to state my "scenario" before I answer.

If I was not in finals and someone else was, what people did or what was done to get to this point would be most likely drastically different. For anyone else to have made it here, something must have changed and something must have been done differently for that someone to make it here. Therefore, this is a difficult question to answer in that for anyone else to have made it here, things would have had to been different in some unknown way or manner and someone would have made some move I don't know of.

However, I will tell you the four people from the Final Twelve that I think my vote would have went for (i'm assuming I can't include myself ).

1. Annie --> I just think she played a great game, people knew she was playing a good game, very strategic, very social, and developed strong alliances. Was my biggest threat at F4, at least I think so, if she were to make finals, due to the moves she made.

2. Esther --> I think you were the underdog come Final 5. You were the one everyone counted out, but if you made finals, you would have deserved the win as you would have turned things around for yourself when the moment looked the darkest and you thought you were going to leave. Additionally, you were very strategic from what I saw of you.

3. Jigsaw --> Jig was social, strategic, and never once did I count him out. He's one of those people that just always seems to have a trick up their sleeve, and the great thing about him is he plays on your emotions. Once he's close to you, it's so difficult to vote him out, because you feel like such a dick for doing so. I think he would be a big contender had he made finals.

4. Jennifer Tilly --> Tilly was Idol'd out and that's the only reason she lost this game, plain and simple. Tilly was always thinking of what to do next, was always on top of her strategy game, and also was a very good social player. There is no doubt in my mind that had Tilly not been taken our with that Idol and had the opportunity to make Final 3, she would have made some ferocious moves along the way and would have deserved a shot at the title.

Thanks Esther!

[Clear Rivers]

Jun 17, 2010 10:59:37 GMT -6 Esther Coleman said:

CLEAR
..but were you really planning on going to F3 with any on Bobby, Annie and Tom, knowing they were all amazing in challenges and liked by everyone, while you flew under the radar at times? Please explain to me your plan to win this game with Bobby, Annie and/or Tom in the F3. Why do you think your game is better? Why do you think they don't deserve my vote over you?

At the beginning of the merge... I tried to talk to you and Check, but both ignored me. Then new alliances have coming ... I just had to Bobby, and he told me I speak to Annie for us to form an alliance. Tom came to me and then I suggested to Annie Tilly ... so we formed the alliance. And as much as Tom has told me in the F5 to eliminate you , because he told me that Annie and Bobby wants me out in the final 4 i know that is a lie... Bobby never was voting for me out to keep Annie or Tom, because i am your allie number 1. So , i decide to vote for you.

I deserve to win because I have infiltrated on the villains side really well, and I make Bobby with me all game. Tom, had to flip to my side and voted out all the villains for no reason. Voted out you villains to get us in the end, it did not need me or want to ally with Bobby, we were only two against you seven villains, when the merges starts. And for me it is knowing how to play, I have infiltrated the villains, I led an alliance and here I am in the final, and they are in the final thanks to me. Because i choose this alliance, and not your alliance.

Now you ask me, why I chose this alliance and not yours? If I had eliminated Annie, Bobby Tom and my move would not have any sense, and if you and Check choose me, and voted out Jigsaw in the final 4(what I thought was very difficult, since you two were just ignoring my messages), yeah I make in the end with you and Check. But i would not receive any votes, anyone on the jury gonna respect my game, understand? I really like you and Check, but I have to play my game, i'm sorry.

[Bobby Carter]

BOBBY
You apparently played a great social game within the Heroes despite your alliance with Annie as you were never voted out or targetted, from what I know. But I haven't seen much of you in the merge. Of course you were pretty good in challenges, but other than that, I don't know what you did for yourself, you know? So my question to you is: how were you planning on defending your case with Annie on the F3? Becsause you played mostly the same game but I saw more of her. Or were you planning on backstabbing her? Please clarify....

Thank you Ester, i apologize for taking so long in answering your question, Annie and i have played in many games together. She knows how i play and i know how she plays. Annie is a in your face kind of player who plays to win and hates to loose. You always know exactly where you stand with Annie and if she gets pissed, you and everyone else will know and why. Annie also has a devious side to her game playing, she can get you to do pretty much what she wants and make you think its your idea. Then sit back and watch the chips fall. Annie loves her games and winning. I am not a in your face kind of player, i love the challenges and trying to figure out whos working with who. I play hard when i need to and then at times i can sit back and let others play and see what they can do and what they will do to win. I am loyal and i am trusting.
I can be a quiet shy player or a noisy pain in your ass player, depends on whos doing what in the game at the time. I pay attention to detail and always keep an open ear for any information true or false. Cause if you think bout it anything can be used if you have the right situation. Would i have backstabbed Annie, no i would have not. Friendship comes first with me in these games. Ive seen some pretty awesome friendships split up because of these games and i dont like it. So no i wouldnt have backstabbed Annie and the best gamer would win....

Bobby

[Jennifer Tilly]

Annie<3

[Esther Coleman]

Jun 17, 2010 15:00:31 GMT -6 Clear Rivers said:

Jun 17, 2010 10:59:37 GMT -6 Esther Coleman said:

Now you ask me, why I chose this alliance and not yours? If I had eliminated Annie, Bobby Tom and my move would not have any sense, and if you and Check choose me, and voted out Jigsaw in the final 4(what I thought was very difficult, since you two were just ignoring my messages), yeah I make in the end with you and Check. But i would not receive any votes, anyone on the jury gonna respect my game, understand? I really like you and Check, but I have to play my game, i'm sorry.

I don't think you would have lost any votes; as far as I know, Check, Jigsaw and me are not that popular. (Other jurors please confirm. ) However, I do understand your reasoning and I'll think about it when deciding my vote.

Thanks to all three of you for answering my questions!

[Jennifer Tilly]

I'd have voted Jigsaw hands down.

[John "Jigsaw" Krammer]

Thanks, Tilly.